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		<title>By: Roberta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberta</dc:creator>
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		<description>I am forever indebted to you for this ionrfmatoin.</description>
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		<title>By: oscar sester</title>
		<link>http://www.sagronek.us/2008/04/cloud-9-restaurant/comment-page-1/#comment-569</link>
		<dc:creator>oscar sester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 21:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i grew up in the late 50&#039;s and early 60&#039;s  just down the hill on 15 ave, went to mountain view school from 1st thru 6th grade.

we used to attend a little church at the foot of 19 ave, and after church my brother and i would hike over to cloud 9.  this was about 1960, and what i remember, it was never open for business, i don&#039;t know if because it was day time or Sunday,  but there was a man there who was very nice, and he would let us look at phoenix threw  the submarine periscope they had.

back then there were a lot of space between sunnyslope and phoenix, lots of citrus groves, and to the west john Jacobs farms where we picked cotton, grapes and watermelons, 4 for a dollar.  

i also remembered that he drove a citron, first one i have ever seen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i grew up in the late 50&#8242;s and early 60&#8242;s  just down the hill on 15 ave, went to mountain view school from 1st thru 6th grade.</p>
<p>we used to attend a little church at the foot of 19 ave, and after church my brother and i would hike over to cloud 9.  this was about 1960, and what i remember, it was never open for business, i don&#8217;t know if because it was day time or Sunday,  but there was a man there who was very nice, and he would let us look at phoenix threw  the submarine periscope they had.</p>
<p>back then there were a lot of space between sunnyslope and phoenix, lots of citrus groves, and to the west john Jacobs farms where we picked cotton, grapes and watermelons, 4 for a dollar.  </p>
<p>i also remembered that he drove a citron, first one i have ever seen</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the memories! The &quot;lift&quot; project explains the towers that were erected and remained (though they may be gone themselves by now!) If your Mom has any memories, photos or artifacts from those days it would be great adding them to this memorial! Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the memories! The &#8220;lift&#8221; project explains the towers that were erected and remained (though they may be gone themselves by now!) If your Mom has any memories, photos or artifacts from those days it would be great adding them to this memorial! Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember Cloud 9.  My Mom worked there!  I was born in 1958, she worked there when I was a baby, I remember the night it burned down too.  I remember seeing the fire, I know it was it the early 60, but I was to young to know for sure what year that was.  My Mom has told me about the place, how the owner would drive down in a little jeep and pick up the employees and customers and take them to the top.  She also said that he was having money problem and that the restaurant had a big problem getting water.  He was going to put in a lift to take people up but it only got as far as the poles before the place was destroy.  I&#039;m not sure if my Mom still has pictures of the place, I do remember the front being round with big windows.    I grew up on 9th ave just 3 block south of Peoria in Sunnyslope.  I went to Mountain View and also Sunnyslope High School.  My Mom still live in Sunnyslope off of 17th Ave and Peoria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember Cloud 9.  My Mom worked there!  I was born in 1958, she worked there when I was a baby, I remember the night it burned down too.  I remember seeing the fire, I know it was it the early 60, but I was to young to know for sure what year that was.  My Mom has told me about the place, how the owner would drive down in a little jeep and pick up the employees and customers and take them to the top.  She also said that he was having money problem and that the restaurant had a big problem getting water.  He was going to put in a lift to take people up but it only got as far as the poles before the place was destroy.  I&#8217;m not sure if my Mom still has pictures of the place, I do remember the front being round with big windows.    I grew up on 9th ave just 3 block south of Peoria in Sunnyslope.  I went to Mountain View and also Sunnyslope High School.  My Mom still live in Sunnyslope off of 17th Ave and Peoria.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anything up top, I would think, has only to do with transmission towers or other official business. No drama to be found there, I&#039;ll bet.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything up top, I would think, has only to do with transmission towers or other official business. No drama to be found there, I&#8217;ll bet.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Skinner</title>
		<link>http://www.sagronek.us/2008/04/cloud-9-restaurant/comment-page-1/#comment-525</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Skinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 16:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes you are right - according to the local hang gliding club&#039;s website, Shaw Butte is still an active and popular launch location.  I haven&#039;t lived in that neighborhood for many years and I guess I never look up when I&#039;m visiting my parents there.  One other correction - Canterbury is north of the mountain, not south!

The Cloud 9 runs are not at the very top of the mountain by the radio towers.  But at the top, there is another old building foundation.  I wonder if that had something to do with the restaraunt or its owner, or if it&#039;s a separate piece of history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes you are right &#8211; according to the local hang gliding club&#8217;s website, Shaw Butte is still an active and popular launch location.  I haven&#8217;t lived in that neighborhood for many years and I guess I never look up when I&#8217;m visiting my parents there.  One other correction &#8211; Canterbury is north of the mountain, not south!</p>
<p>The Cloud 9 runs are not at the very top of the mountain by the radio towers.  But at the top, there is another old building foundation.  I wonder if that had something to do with the restaraunt or its owner, or if it&#8217;s a separate piece of history.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 20:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know that hang-gliding was banned anywhere on the mountain. I&#039;ve seen gliders flying up above the mountain within the past month or so. They need a vehicle to transport them up to the top (where the towers are), and I&#039;ve seen vehicles enter the gate at the bottom, off of Central. If they are &quot;banned&quot; anywhere, it could be from the Cloud Nine site, but I don&#039;t know why they would. I think that launching from the summit is preferable anyway. Thanks for your comment to the blog!   sagronek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know that hang-gliding was banned anywhere on the mountain. I&#8217;ve seen gliders flying up above the mountain within the past month or so. They need a vehicle to transport them up to the top (where the towers are), and I&#8217;ve seen vehicles enter the gate at the bottom, off of Central. If they are &#8220;banned&#8221; anywhere, it could be from the Cloud Nine site, but I don&#8217;t know why they would. I think that launching from the summit is preferable anyway. Thanks for your comment to the blog!   sagronek</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Skinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Skinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 19:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t believe I stumbled across this page today.  Had some idle time and thought I&#039;d try to find out what the old foundation used to be at the top of the mountain I had hiked up so many times as a boy.  Back around 1977, when I was six years old, we moved to a house on Canterbury drive (Central &amp; Thunderbird, just south of the entrance to the paved road that leads up to that area.
I just wanted to add that well into the 1980&#039;s hang gliders used to launch off the mountain to the west, right from the area where the restaraunt used to be.  Does anyone know the history of when hang gliding was finally banned from the site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t believe I stumbled across this page today.  Had some idle time and thought I&#8217;d try to find out what the old foundation used to be at the top of the mountain I had hiked up so many times as a boy.  Back around 1977, when I was six years old, we moved to a house on Canterbury drive (Central &amp; Thunderbird, just south of the entrance to the paved road that leads up to that area.<br />
I just wanted to add that well into the 1980&#8242;s hang gliders used to launch off the mountain to the west, right from the area where the restaraunt used to be.  Does anyone know the history of when hang gliding was finally banned from the site?</p>
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		<title>By: scot</title>
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		<dc:creator>scot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I truly wish I could have seen this great place in real life. I know that it would be hard to find someone with a vivid memory of cloud 9, but if there is any way to do animation with this old sight even just the outside of the building would be great for the sunnyslope village, and all the pepole that want to see what the cloud 9 looked like in its prime. Admin great pics of the ship rock house tour, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly wish I could have seen this great place in real life. I know that it would be hard to find someone with a vivid memory of cloud 9, but if there is any way to do animation with this old sight even just the outside of the building would be great for the sunnyslope village, and all the pepole that want to see what the cloud 9 looked like in its prime. Admin great pics of the ship rock house tour, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Animation would be great (like this one done for the former &quot;Ship Rock&quot;, Frank Lloyd Wright-designed home that also burned down, the remains of which were always a subject of my fascination. video: http://bit.ly/b2DX9Q pics: http://bit.ly/cJNmL2 ) 

But, it would require someone with a vivid memory of the place (not many remaining, as these comments would indicate) and a good animator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Animation would be great (like this one done for the former &#8220;Ship Rock&#8221;, Frank Lloyd Wright-designed home that also burned down, the remains of which were always a subject of my fascination. video: <a href="http://bit.ly/b2DX9Q" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/b2DX9Q</a> pics: <a href="http://bit.ly/cJNmL2" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cJNmL2</a> ) </p>
<p>But, it would require someone with a vivid memory of the place (not many remaining, as these comments would indicate) and a good animator.</p>
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