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		<title>Comment on Cloud Nine Restaurant by Douglas</title>
		<link>http://www.sagronek.us/2008/04/cloud-9-restaurant/comment-page-1/#comment-1367</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 23:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lynne,

One of Richard Barker&#039;s sons is doing some research on his father&#039;s restaurant and remembers meeting your mother from when he was a boy. He&#039;d appreciate the opportunity to chat with her during his occasional visits to the Valley. I&#039;ve written about the Cloud Nine for Phoenix Magazine and could forward her contact info to him. You can find my email on my website that also has the article: http://www.neonmotel.com/download/cloud9.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lynne,</p>
<p>One of Richard Barker&#8217;s sons is doing some research on his father&#8217;s restaurant and remembers meeting your mother from when he was a boy. He&#8217;d appreciate the opportunity to chat with her during his occasional visits to the Valley. I&#8217;ve written about the Cloud Nine for Phoenix Magazine and could forward her contact info to him. You can find my email on my website that also has the article: <a href="http://www.neonmotel.com/download/cloud9.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.neonmotel.com/download/cloud9.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Cloud Nine Restaurant by george allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>george allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 22:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>friend of barker boy, he wants to know if your moms initials are j e?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>friend of barker boy, he wants to know if your moms initials are j e?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cloud Nine Restaurant by SJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 02:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I lived right across the street 21st AVE I think, from the dirt lot where the gliders landed.  As kids, we&#039;d watch them land from our front yard.  I think ot was somwhere around 1986 or so, when an apartment complex was added where the dirt lot was, and the hang gliders no longer had a good landing spot.  That&#039;s when I remember them leaving.  Hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I lived right across the street 21st AVE I think, from the dirt lot where the gliders landed.  As kids, we&#8217;d watch them land from our front yard.  I think ot was somwhere around 1986 or so, when an apartment complex was added where the dirt lot was, and the hang gliders no longer had a good landing spot.  That&#8217;s when I remember them leaving.  Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cloud Nine Overlooking Phoenix by How do you remember Phoenix? Stories from long time residents... - Arizona (AZ) - Page 320 - City-Data Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>How do you remember Phoenix? Stories from long time residents... - Arizona (AZ) - Page 320 - City-Data Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Cloud Nine Restaurant by oscar sester</title>
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		<dc:creator>oscar sester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 21:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i grew up in the late 50&#039;s and early 60&#039;s  just down the hill on 15 ave, went to mountain view school from 1st thru 6th grade.

we used to attend a little church at the foot of 19 ave, and after church my brother and i would hike over to cloud 9.  this was about 1960, and what i remember, it was never open for business, i don&#039;t know if because it was day time or Sunday,  but there was a man there who was very nice, and he would let us look at phoenix threw  the submarine periscope they had.

back then there were a lot of space between sunnyslope and phoenix, lots of citrus groves, and to the west john Jacobs farms where we picked cotton, grapes and watermelons, 4 for a dollar.  

i also remembered that he drove a citron, first one i have ever seen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i grew up in the late 50&#8242;s and early 60&#8242;s  just down the hill on 15 ave, went to mountain view school from 1st thru 6th grade.</p>
<p>we used to attend a little church at the foot of 19 ave, and after church my brother and i would hike over to cloud 9.  this was about 1960, and what i remember, it was never open for business, i don&#8217;t know if because it was day time or Sunday,  but there was a man there who was very nice, and he would let us look at phoenix threw  the submarine periscope they had.</p>
<p>back then there were a lot of space between sunnyslope and phoenix, lots of citrus groves, and to the west john Jacobs farms where we picked cotton, grapes and watermelons, 4 for a dollar.  </p>
<p>i also remembered that he drove a citron, first one i have ever seen</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cloud Nine Restaurant by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the memories! The &quot;lift&quot; project explains the towers that were erected and remained (though they may be gone themselves by now!) If your Mom has any memories, photos or artifacts from those days it would be great adding them to this memorial! Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the memories! The &#8220;lift&#8221; project explains the towers that were erected and remained (though they may be gone themselves by now!) If your Mom has any memories, photos or artifacts from those days it would be great adding them to this memorial! Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cloud Nine Restaurant by Lynne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember Cloud 9.  My Mom worked there!  I was born in 1958, she worked there when I was a baby, I remember the night it burned down too.  I remember seeing the fire, I know it was it the early 60, but I was to young to know for sure what year that was.  My Mom has told me about the place, how the owner would drive down in a little jeep and pick up the employees and customers and take them to the top.  She also said that he was having money problem and that the restaurant had a big problem getting water.  He was going to put in a lift to take people up but it only got as far as the poles before the place was destroy.  I&#039;m not sure if my Mom still has pictures of the place, I do remember the front being round with big windows.    I grew up on 9th ave just 3 block south of Peoria in Sunnyslope.  I went to Mountain View and also Sunnyslope High School.  My Mom still live in Sunnyslope off of 17th Ave and Peoria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember Cloud 9.  My Mom worked there!  I was born in 1958, she worked there when I was a baby, I remember the night it burned down too.  I remember seeing the fire, I know it was it the early 60, but I was to young to know for sure what year that was.  My Mom has told me about the place, how the owner would drive down in a little jeep and pick up the employees and customers and take them to the top.  She also said that he was having money problem and that the restaurant had a big problem getting water.  He was going to put in a lift to take people up but it only got as far as the poles before the place was destroy.  I&#8217;m not sure if my Mom still has pictures of the place, I do remember the front being round with big windows.    I grew up on 9th ave just 3 block south of Peoria in Sunnyslope.  I went to Mountain View and also Sunnyslope High School.  My Mom still live in Sunnyslope off of 17th Ave and Peoria.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cloud Nine Restaurant by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anything up top, I would think, has only to do with transmission towers or other official business. No drama to be found there, I&#039;ll bet.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything up top, I would think, has only to do with transmission towers or other official business. No drama to be found there, I&#8217;ll bet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cloud Nine Restaurant by Ted Skinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Skinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 16:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes you are right - according to the local hang gliding club&#039;s website, Shaw Butte is still an active and popular launch location.  I haven&#039;t lived in that neighborhood for many years and I guess I never look up when I&#039;m visiting my parents there.  One other correction - Canterbury is north of the mountain, not south!

The Cloud 9 runs are not at the very top of the mountain by the radio towers.  But at the top, there is another old building foundation.  I wonder if that had something to do with the restaraunt or its owner, or if it&#039;s a separate piece of history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes you are right &#8211; according to the local hang gliding club&#8217;s website, Shaw Butte is still an active and popular launch location.  I haven&#8217;t lived in that neighborhood for many years and I guess I never look up when I&#8217;m visiting my parents there.  One other correction &#8211; Canterbury is north of the mountain, not south!</p>
<p>The Cloud 9 runs are not at the very top of the mountain by the radio towers.  But at the top, there is another old building foundation.  I wonder if that had something to do with the restaraunt or its owner, or if it&#8217;s a separate piece of history.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cloud Nine Restaurant by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 20:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know that hang-gliding was banned anywhere on the mountain. I&#039;ve seen gliders flying up above the mountain within the past month or so. They need a vehicle to transport them up to the top (where the towers are), and I&#039;ve seen vehicles enter the gate at the bottom, off of Central. If they are &quot;banned&quot; anywhere, it could be from the Cloud Nine site, but I don&#039;t know why they would. I think that launching from the summit is preferable anyway. Thanks for your comment to the blog!   sagronek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know that hang-gliding was banned anywhere on the mountain. I&#8217;ve seen gliders flying up above the mountain within the past month or so. They need a vehicle to transport them up to the top (where the towers are), and I&#8217;ve seen vehicles enter the gate at the bottom, off of Central. If they are &#8220;banned&#8221; anywhere, it could be from the Cloud Nine site, but I don&#8217;t know why they would. I think that launching from the summit is preferable anyway. Thanks for your comment to the blog!   sagronek</p>
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